The Sacred Sandwich

February17th

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  • Comment by Dirt Road Girl — February 17, 2013 @ 9:48 pm

    This perfectly describes on of our deacons, though he wouldn’t wear overalls to Sunday services; but, definitely during VBS & Wednesday bible study. Our men prefer their best pair of blue jeans and a clean button-up for Sunday service and even their weddings (the only time many of the men will ever wear a suit is at their funeral).

  • Comment by Kim Carmichael — February 18, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

    This is wonderful…the Body comes in all shapes and sizes…accepted by our Lord…no matter what we wear…God in tune with our hearts, minds, spirit…thank you for your lessons…

  • Comment by Phil Vinciguerra — February 18, 2013 @ 1:16 pm

    REMEMBER…. NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE!!!

  • Comment by Dominic — February 19, 2013 @ 9:12 am

    I am currently doing Jury service – dress standards (demands therefore) are far higher than many manage to attend church and worship their Lord and Saviour. I wish some people WOULD wear neat and tidy clothes to church, like the above…

  • Comment by John Hicks Tew — February 19, 2013 @ 11:29 am

    There is the age old argument about how one should dress for church. My belief is that we should do our best to look our best. What sayest thou Angus?

  • Comment by Janis — February 19, 2013 @ 12:17 pm

    Have we really not yet matured past being concerned abt what is worn to church? Show me some scripture, please.

  • Comment by Carol — February 19, 2013 @ 4:53 pm

    I say this, considering the location of the church, if it’s rural and the members are farmers or other such occupations where their “wardrobe” consists of jeans, I would not look harshly upon them, unless they are covered in mud or other such mess.

    If they are clean and decent, what’s the difference in jeans? If their hearts are right with God, that’s the important thing.

    Those dressed in expensive clothing and “look” good, but have wicked hearts, are they more acceptable in church?

  • Comment by Janis — February 19, 2013 @ 6:40 pm

    What is the difference whether they are rural farmers, etc or not, Carol?

    This unwritten “dress code” is one of the things that makes some people shy away from ever coming to church. Each church has a different “code”….every bit as confusing and unintelligible as the cipher kind of code to many people…..which can become a tool the enemy uses to keep people from hearing the gospel and experiencing the love of Christ’s body.

    In recent years, churches I am familiar with seem to be moving toward a more generous dress code, which I think is good. It makes for a more welcoming environment for visitors…..and regulars!

  • Comment by Fake Coke Can — February 19, 2013 @ 8:17 pm

    See the dress standards in this old advert and weep:

    http://calvinisticcartoons.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/corky-ad-contest-entry-5.html

  • Comment by Les — February 19, 2013 @ 10:20 pm

    Ha, this reminds me of the time I went forward for eucharist and noticed everyone was laughing at me. I’d fed my horse just before going to evening church and had forgotten to take the wire cutters out of my rear pocket.

  • Comment by Carol — February 20, 2013 @ 8:05 pm

    What I was trying to point out, if they don’t have suits, then it’s no big deal if they wore jeans, as long as they were not ragged or filthy.

    What’s the problem with wanting clean and decent looking clothes?

  • Comment by Janis — February 21, 2013 @ 12:48 pm

    Carol: Nothing at all wrong with wanting clean and “decent-looking” clothes….depending on what your definition is of “decent-looking”. What I was taking issue with was your special dispensation being granted to farmers or rural people to wear those clean and decent-looking jeans… but not to others? I understand what you are saying….but I am still challenging you a little bit to loosen up how it sounds.

    Truth is, there really are people who don’t have the cleanest clothes, or completely non-raggedy clothes. Maybe you don’t have them in your area, but I see them around here. Some are scratching out a living under rather primitive conditions and they don’t always smell really good or look all that great. I’m sure you are not saying these should be less welcome in our churches than others!

    I have had several people over the years tell me they wanted to visit our church but didn’t really have “church” clothes…whatever that means. I told them I wear jeans to church every single Sunday and they were visibly relieved. I don’t think church regulars realize how big a deal this “dress code” thing is to people.

  • Comment by St. Lee — February 26, 2013 @ 2:38 pm

    As I see it, there may have once been a problem with “Sunday Best” clothes making some who are less wealthy feel uncomfortable, but I believe that the pendulum has swung the other way – perhaps a bit too far. Consider a comment by Dennis Prager (or was it Michael Medved – I get them confused) “Would you get dressed up to meet the President? If so, why would you not show as much respect when you go to meet with God?” (that was a paraphrase BTW)

    There is certainly the opportunity for Pharisee-ism on both sides of this issue, but perhaps each one should examine himself to find the real reason that they dress up, or down, for church.

    Maybe a biker friend of mine had it right when he said “I figure you should just wear your newest pair of jeans.”

    …and I am fine with the bib overalls on the gentlemen in the ad – I just hope they remember to remove their hats when they get inside.

  • Comment by Janis — February 26, 2013 @ 5:01 pm

    I don’t go to church to meet with God. I commune with the Lord each minute of every day…Am I supposed to dress up all the time for that???? Guess I can’t talk to Him in my pajamas or in the shower. Bummer!!!

    I think what it boils down to is courtesy. The heart of courtesy is making others feel comfortable. No matter where we go, we should attempt to dress in such a way that keeps others from feeling uncomfortable. This applies to going to the grocery store, the neighbor’s house, and to church. Much of this is cultural and situational. The norm in certain public places or geographical areas is not necessarily the norm in other places.

    Yes, I would dress up if I were invited to the White House to meet the President. It would be discourteous to not dress up, besides the fact that they wouldn’t let me in! But what if the President were my Dad? Would I get a new gown to meet with him for coffee? Nope. It’s a situational thing.

    With courtesy, the knife cuts both ways, so to speak, and the burden always falls on ourselves. We are to put others’ interests (and comfort-levels) above our own and dress ourselves accordingly. However, out of courtesy, we also are to strive to make others feel comfortable…..no matter what they are wearing: hats, no hats, jeans, dresses, suits, bib overalls, ties, shorts, whatever.

  • Comment by St. Lee — February 27, 2013 @ 2:25 pm

    Janis, I knew ahead of time that the first response to my comment would include some version of “I don’t go to church to meet with God. I commune with the Lord each minute of every day”. But that analogy was not my own; I only added it as a point to consider. I must say that I envy the close relationship you have with the Lord. I often go for many minutes at a time without speaking to him and I only hear from him directly a couple times a day (through reading scripture of course).

    Consider what you might be saying to the unsaved by your actions though. He sees you on Saturday “dressed up” and meeting the President on TV, the next day he sees you in church dressed in jeans and a t-shirt. Will he think, “Oh how nice that she dressed casually in case someone without nice clothes attended” or will he subconsciously think that you consider the President to be more worthy of a display of courtesy than fellow church goers? Indeed the sword does cut both ways.

    To be courteous, must we all dress to the lowest common denominator? Could it be that in some cases getting dressed up might serve as a good example and a sign of respect?

  • Comment by PhilD — February 28, 2013 @ 8:54 pm

    These comments and conversations bring back a memory.
    Years ago my family and I were spending the summer living in a campground after moving to a new location for a job. Living in the campground for three months allowed us to save money for an appartment in the city.
    The first time we went to a nearby church one of the deacons took me asside after church to offer me a used suit of his to wear to church. Sure, the jeans and shirt I had on were wrinkled but clean. If he had asked what we needed as a family I would have said a used propane grill would be very helpful.

  • Comment by Carol — March 3, 2013 @ 10:27 pm

    It’s not what you wear on the outside, but what’s in your heart.

    People are raised in different areas, from different eras and have attended different types of churches and assemblies. Different places have a more strict dress code, like women being forbidden to wear pants. Strange as it may sound. So their perception of what is “acceptable” dress codes are different from others. Some of the newer types of churches the pastor dresses in jeans and t-shirt,and it’s not the “traditional” type of service. There are churches that offer what they call “tradtional” and “contemporary” services at different times in their day. What that means by traditional as opposed to contemporary you’d have to ask their leadership.

    Churches in different types of neighborhoods and areas don’t have the same ideas on how “church” should be.

    So this is one area that is subjective, some feel jeans are fine, others prefer more dress clothes. Does this make one better than another? Or worse than another?

    Two people could be the same age and sitting in the same pew and when the pastor gives the message it affects them differently. It’s because people are different and their backgrounds and perceptions of things differ. So their ideas of dressing for church will differ.

  • Comment by Robert — March 7, 2013 @ 9:44 am

    I am always intrigued by those that use the “it doesn’t matter what you where to church” argument. The other argument that many use is that of the cultural aspect.
    As far as the wear whatever you want camp, you are all lying to yourselves. Everyone has a line in the sand of what is acceptable and what is not. Yours may be more liberal than the person next to you but you still have one. To use some extremes in order to shorten this up, I will use the idea of women wearing bikinis or men wearing speedos. I would imagine that 99.9% of church goers would say this is not appropriate.I could go into many examples but I believe you get the point.
    The other idea or argument about culture is just that of someone grasping at straws when they have nothing left to fight with. God and his word, that which is pleasing to him and that which is not, is not culturally based. Public nudity is not pleasing to God and yet in some cultures it is considerd to be fine. The same could be said for fornication, homosexuality, and the worship of multiple gods. There are plenty of other examples as well. Culture does not change God’s character and to use it to do so is just an excuse to do what is wrong.
    One last thing to remember also is that the Good Book says to dress modestly. This does not mean that you have to wear a suit or a dress but does imply a dress code of some sort. Also there is scripture that mentions that men should not dress like women nor women like men. Another implication of an implied dress code.
    Just some things to ponder as you look at the subject at hand.

  • Comment by Penne — September 13, 2013 @ 5:48 pm

    Remember the story of the widow who gave all she had and Jesus said she gave more than anyone else. She gave from her heart. I just attended a funeral for my uncle who was a farmer. Several of his farmer friends came in the best clothes they had. They wore a clean pair of overalls with a clean shirt and they all took their hat off when they came in the building. Many of them were WWII veterans and they were truly grief stricken. I was incredibly humbled and would rather be in their company any day than with anyone else. They are the salt of the earth! Such gentlemen!

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