The Sacred Sandwich

September27th

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  • Comment by Jamie S — September 27, 2010 @ 7:08 am

    I fear the time is close when the Wool Tunic will be back in vogue.

  • Comment by Josh — September 27, 2010 @ 8:15 am

    Unfortunately, in some parts of the world the Wool Tunic has never gone out of style.

  • Comment by Mike Anderson — September 27, 2010 @ 9:00 am

    I would gladly wear the wool tunic for the rest of my days before I would put on a shirt like that for even one second. However, some who would consider themselves to be “reformed preachers” even go as far as to preach from the pulpit wearing such trash.

  • Comment by Parakletos — September 27, 2010 @ 10:02 am

    I can’t imagine all is well if the only way that people can identify your Christianity is by what you wear.

    For what it’s worth, the only fashion highlight I remember in the New Testament is John’s camel-skin.

  • Comment by David — September 27, 2010 @ 10:04 am

    High view of GOD vs. a low view of God. You will never see a person on the burning stake with a shirt on like that. I repeat…….you will never see a true Christian on the stake being burned alive with a shirt on there chest that conveys that kind of message.

  • Comment by Janet — September 27, 2010 @ 11:00 am

    Of course the guy on the left wouldn’t wear the 1555 fashion! After all, wool is itchy and God wouldn’t want anyone to be uncomfortable, would He?

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 27, 2010 @ 12:06 pm

    That shirt should say “Brad Delp is my homeboy” or “Boston On Tour 77″.

  • Comment by Nick — September 27, 2010 @ 1:31 pm

    Is that Servetus? The picture and date fit.

  • Comment by Angus — September 27, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

    No, poor John Rogers, the first English Protestant martyr.

  • Comment by Carol — September 27, 2010 @ 7:24 pm

    It’s sad to say that there are some self proclaimed “pastors” who dress like the “dude” on the left. Sad to say that no true saint would wear that irreverent material. Our Glorious Lord should not be degraded to a graven image and referred to as a “homeboy”. Truly sad to say that people would attend a gathering with such an irreverent attitude towards the Lord.

    Thinking of such an image of the post modern dude and a Christian Martyr of the 1500′s, reminds me of a cartoon that I had found some years ago online. On one side it was this man in a fancy suit with a big smile and talking about his riches, and an image of Paul imprisoned, in chains, and writing his letter to the Phillipian Church. Makes you really think about how serious the faith should be taken, if one was willing to be imprisoned or burned at the stake for their faith, or making a mockery of this carnal religion that some call “Christianity”. Tragic for those who continue to slide down the slippery slope.

    Indeed, I think a day is coming very, very soon, where “wool tunic” will be given to saints who refuse to bow down to some golden statue.

    Quite sobering. It should be a wake up call for those who choose to live like the man on the left….to ask themselves “Would I be willing to die for my faith?”

  • Comment by Elizabeth — September 27, 2010 @ 11:08 pm

    Well for all intents and purposes, and as much as I detest the T shirt, or the burning at the stake which was a mockery of Moses meeting God in the Burning Bush, it really isn’t going to matter when we have our heads chopped off.

    To be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD. AMEN?

  • Comment by David Michael — September 28, 2010 @ 1:20 am

    While I would not want to wear the T-shirt or feel comfortable calling God a “homeboy” personally, we should not be so quick to condemn the very terminology or someone’s wearing of a shirt like that. Jesus used very intimidate terms to describe His disciples: He called them His friends (how incredible is that!). For parts of America’s culture, that’s just what “homeboy” means, and for some people it probably has a more direct, visceral meaning than just “friend.” It would not be inappropriate for a Christian raised in a subculture that uses the term “homeboy” to also use the term while witnessing to amongst those to whom it has real meaning. What matters is not the language so much as the message — that what is preached is unequivocally the gospel of infallible, inspired, Scripture, not watered-down or altered in content. While it may be often (or mostly) misused, I don’t think the phrase “God is my homeboy” is intrinsically irreverent or wrong in all cases. I also think we should be careful not to interfere with the real ministry of others when it diverges from our own style of ministry.

  • Comment by David Michael — September 28, 2010 @ 2:03 am

    Clarification of my last sentence: We should be careful not to hinder the ministry that God works through others who are very different from ourselves. EVEN in cases where we may be aware of theological errors in evangelizing Christians who use terms that seem unduly casual or “hip” (and I admit my own skepticism towards this), they may still have the true gospel and the Holy Spirit may be working through them for the glory of God.

    Notice I am not defending the T-shirt itself. The T-shirt and its smiling, affluent-seeming, shades-wearing model attempts to stand alone on a message that is not the heart of the gospel. But the principle I’m elaborating on is biblical, I think. It’s as C.S. Lewis said in his essay “Modern Translations of the Bible.” He reminded us that in the 16th century the very idea of an English translation of the Bible was thought terribly irreverent:

    “Dozens of sincerely pious people in the sixteenth century shuddered at the idea of turning the time-honored Latin of the Vulgate into our common and (as they thought) ‘barbarous’ English. A sacred truth seemed to them to have lost its sanctity when it was stripped of the polysyllabic Latin, long heard at Mass and at Hours, and put into ‘language such as men do use’—language steeped in all the commonplace associations of the nursery, the inn, the stable, and the street. The answer then was the same as the answer now. The only kind of sanctity which Scripture can lose (or, at least, New Testament scripture) by being modernized is an accidental kind which it never had for its writers or its earliest readers.

    “…The same divine humility which decreed that God should become a baby at a peasant-woman’s breast, and later an arrested field-preacher in the hands of the Roman police, decreed also that He should be preaching in a vulgar, prosaic and unliterary language. If you can stomach the one, you can stomach the other. The Incarnation is in that sense an irreverent doctrine: Christianity, in that sense, an incurably irreverent religion. When we expect that it should have come before the World in all the beauty that we now feel in the Authorised Version we are as wide of the mark as the Jews were in expecting that the Messiah would come as a great earthly King. The real sanctity, the real beauty and sublimity of the New Testament (as of Christ’s life) are of a different sort: miles deeper or further in.”

  • Comment by Deaconness — September 28, 2010 @ 2:15 am

    In response to David Michael: You know, I wasn’t really sure of what I thought about the “Homeboy” T-shirt until I read all the way down to your commentary. I totally agree with it. What matters, is what matters to God. Nothing else matters. I think God cares about the heart of the person wearing the T-shirt (and maybe those who made it). If there is a “real” ministry then it’s GOD’S ministry and who’s going to argue with Him? We’ve been shown grace and if we appreciate it we will show it to others. This image generates comments because WORDS communicate different ideas to different people. What “Homeboy” conjures up to one person is NOT what it conjures up for another. We should make words serve us, not be enslaved by them. I was undecided until I tried to figure out if someone could truly further His Kingdom wearing such a shirt. I’d say yes. And if so, I’d say that’s God’s opinion.

  • Comment by dominic — September 28, 2010 @ 2:37 am

    Of course what matters is the relationship between that person and God, however… (you knew there would be a however, didn’t you!)

    That person’s relationship with God, if mature, would not be expressed in ways that will offend others by over-familiarity with our Creator and Sovereign God, and foolishness in the presentation of the truth that through Christ alone we have salvation. This t-shirt fails on both those counts.

    Further, if you must use it, whatever definition of ‘home-boy’ one might use it would surely only be accurate to say “I am Jesus’ home-boy”. That might then convey some truth to others which could make them think about God and His work for us – rather than thinking about the person wearing the t-shirt and how ‘cool’ they are…

  • Comment by dominic — September 28, 2010 @ 2:40 am

    P.S. I am apparently on someone’s list of people to “deal with” because of my public comments about faith. But although they are Muslim, if they are anything like most Christians, they’ll never get round to doing anything about it…
    And if they do, then yes, Elizabeth, I’ll be with my Lord, so I’ll be alright. Thank God.

  • Comment by Michael Henry — September 28, 2010 @ 5:29 am

    A defense of this “shirt” is absurd on any and all levels. Trying to reach someone? anyone?, well, why not make a ridiculous shirt that reduces the God of the universe to a buffoon ghetto character. Then, well, just pontificate how any means that might, maybe , perhaps get people to “think” about Jesus is good. Poppycock. Do we see any examples or scriptures that reduces Christ at all? Saying someones “relationship” is not mature is offensive to both relationship and mature. It’s plain ignorance. This is pure blasphemy, and a defense of it is truly sad.

  • Comment by Angus — September 28, 2010 @ 5:47 am

    I don’t remember Thomas examining Jesus’ wounds and saying, “My Lord and my homeboy!”

  • Comment by Gumbymonster — September 28, 2010 @ 6:28 am

    Seriously, The angels, and true christians, sing Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come. We are to have confidence to come to the thone of grace, but not with foolishness, mockery, and blasphemy. And that is what that false idol called a shirt is conveying- not exalting our Lord but demeaning Him.

  • Comment by Gumbymonster — September 28, 2010 @ 6:48 am

    Oh btw, Jesus didn’t die on the cross so we could call Him homeboy but to save us from eternal damnation.

  • Comment by LuLu — September 28, 2010 @ 7:45 am

    Is there anything more sophmoric,(or should I say,”moronic”),than a silly,yuppie white guy attempting to be “ghetto”? I’ll answer that question:Yes.A silly,yuppie,Christian white guy attemting to be “relevant” and trusting in the “power” of some goofy,trifling,tee-shirt and rather than the Word!

  • Comment by Jason — September 28, 2010 @ 8:10 am

    We can all agree that word use and meaning in English language has changed over time, but clearly that is not the issue being lampooned here. The ridiculous white boy wearing the ghetto themed shirt is obviously a representation of modern attempts to trivialize and commercialize the “firstborn over all creation” (Colossians 1:15).

    There is a big weekend cowboy festival that takes place near my town every year. On Sunday, they have “cowboy church”, complete with folks in old timey cowboy attire, a Western music group playing Western-style hymns, spiritually-themed cowboy poetry, and a sermon with a cowboy allegory attached to it. This seems to me to trivialize our Lord just as badly as the “homeboy” t-shirt does.

    Paul became “all things to all people so that I might by all means save some”, circumcised Timothy to avoid excessive trouble with the Jews, and appealed to the men of Athens using the words of their own poets, but I don’t think Paul would have done anything like what this shirt portrays. Whether it’s ghetto or cowboy culture doesn’t matter.

    My two cents.

  • Comment by Jordan Rouden — September 28, 2010 @ 8:10 am

    Regardless of how silly the shirt is, or even how irreverent. To label someone who wears it as not christian is disgusting and pharisaical. “You will never see someone burn at the stake with that shirt on” and putting “” around preachers and pastors who wear them. Insane. Scripture says you can know them by their fruits, and last I checked attire wasn’t a fruit of the Spirit.
    Do I think this shirt is silly and childish? Absolutely. Would I ever wear it? Never. Do I think as the person grows in their faith they would see the childishness that is apparent in their shirt? Absolutely. But would I think to myself, “Hmm hope hardcore persecution doesn’t come to the States, because THAT guy won’t make it and he’ll renounce his faith.”? NO.
    This is very similar to when one of the DefCon guys was judging a preacher because he wore a t-shirt and jeans to preach instead of shirt and tie. How come it always seems to come down to outward appearances with so many christians? And not just outward appearances, but trivial ones at that.
    Someone else said it’s a high view of God vs a low view of God. Are you telling me, in your own sinful flesh that you can rightly grasp and fully understand the “high view of God”? NO, you cannot. And never will fully until the day you know as you are known. Until that day, even your own “high view of God” will fall far short of the fullness and thus will also be “irreverent”.
    Isaiah pronounced a curse on himself for catching a glimpse of the “high view of God”, and yet many of you who believe you have also have a “high view of God” instead pronounce a curse on someone who hasn’t.
    Let me reiterate, I believe this shirt to be childish. But I do not believe that we can judge the state of the person’s soul by this shirt, nor do I believe that any of you can support such a judgement by scripture.

  • Comment by Jason — September 28, 2010 @ 8:11 am

    With all being that said, I thought this cartoon was funny…

  • Comment by Jennifer Szczyrbak — September 28, 2010 @ 9:18 am

    Just like with sermons, internalize this…how have we all had attitudes similar to the one portrayed on the ‘home-boy’ t-shirt? Do we too use our version of who Jesus is as a symbol to wear to prove to others that we’ve got one up on them? Sometimes. So beware, there’s an element of pride in all of us.

  • Comment by Sterling VanDerwerker — September 28, 2010 @ 10:23 am

    I’m waiting for a finger to appear, erase the Jesus is my homeboy,.. and rewrite:

    mene mene, teckle upharsin

  • Comment by pastorblastor — September 28, 2010 @ 10:48 am

    The problem stems from our post modern view of who Jesus is and why he died on the cross for us. We think we can make Jesus into a relevant character by addressing him as our “Buddy” or “Homeboy.” Interestingly, we forget that Jesus called his disciples “friends,” and only then if they were obedient to the gospel message, not us. We are called the redeemed. The fashion statement of the model reflects the notion that we should be “all things to all people that we might win some.” The problem is Christians desperately are trying to be like the world, and they never win anyone. Jesus did not join the beggar in the gutter begging nor did he pay the prostitute at the well. Whether it was fishermen, tax collectors, or those who doubted — he called them to himself. To change. The wrath of God remains on those who do not recognize their sin, repent, and come to Christ by faith. Paul would later relate that while he was all things to some, meaning in his willingness to present the gospel — not become part of the world — he also told his readers to be holy in everything they did. While certainly there can be whitewashed tombs within Christianity, I fear the flippant attitude of who Jesus is and what he did is truly reflected by many in our day. After all, many think Jesus is all about “me.”

  • Comment by pastorblastor — September 28, 2010 @ 11:04 am

    Here’s a conversation starter: By the way, recently it was learned that NAMBLA is on Facebook. “FoxNews.com found hundreds of links to NAMBLA’s website on Facebook, which has more than half a billion users worldwide. And posts on known pedophile blogs and chat rooms show an organized effort by pedophiles to use the social networking site to prey on children.” so, if Facebook supports such things as child porn and deviant behavior, should Christians use it as well? What about churches that want a presence on Facebook? How does this stand up to our willingness to use whatever the world offers to “win some”?

  • Comment by Jeff Johnson — September 28, 2010 @ 11:07 am

    I’ve seen this shirt before, but not in Christian bookstores. It was in one of the urban fashion stores in the mall. I have a hard time imagining someone wearing this shirt as a legit way to evangelize others. This is an attempt to make money by someone who thought this idea was cute and clever, and who knows that some Christians would think so, too. The message of the shirt certainly does not convey the respect due to the sovereign and holy Lord. I would, however, (as others have said) give the Christian wearer the benefit of the doubt and chalk up wearing such a shirt to immaturity. Hopefully, that person’s knowledge of Christ will mature to the point where he wouldn’t want to portray Christ in that way.

  • Comment by Kendall — September 28, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

    Amen Jeff J.You hit the nail on the head…immaturity!And hopefully growth will come with grace and biblical discipleship.

  • Comment by Carol — September 28, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

    I do not think this is a wise choice for attire to present yourself to the world as a Child of God. Even if the person who would dare to wear such a shirt has even the remotest idea on the deity of Christ, would think twice before actually buying the shirt. Some talk about making a judgment on the person’s heart, but I dare to say that anyone would consider Jesus as a “homeboy” doesn’t really have a very Biblical view of Jesus. Certainly they need to be shown truth, but people who are that casual with their beliefs, are not as likely to give up fun time with their homeboys and study the Word of God in great detail.

    A shirt, can you judge a person’s heart by the shirt they wear? Well, we can’t read minds, but it can give an indication on the attitude by the saying on it. It surely doesn’t give a very good impression. Does that make those who are offended by such a irreverent shirt as being a pharisee? By being judgmental?

    ???? This subject should not have to be discussed to this length. It’s not a good thing.

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 28, 2010 @ 7:45 pm

    Since the humor has been lost now…
    The homeboy shirt is not respectful to Christ, but only an unwillingness to repent of our sins and trust in the finished work of Christ for Salvation as we strive to live out a life of sanctification in obedience to God takes us to hell. When I first got saved, I bought every shirt, bumper sticker, and keychain that had what I thought was a grand celebration of the One who saved me. At that point, it’s like a child that colors pretty pictures of a house with a white picket fence and a cute puppy in the yard with a big sun shining behind it for Mommy and Daddy. But as I grew in the knowledge and understanding of who God really is, I put away the “foolish” things and moved onto those things that truly glorify Him.

    Let’s not be so quick to condemn a person for wearing such a shirt, and maybe turn your attention to discipling such a person and helping him/her to grow as well. Telling someone how irreverent they are for wearing a shirt like that is not esteeming others higher than yourself. Respectfully showing that person who Jesus is and the Majesty He deserves through the Scripture and discipleship bears good fruit for both of you to HIS glory.

    If you have to blast someone, call the companies that make these shirts and preach the Word!

  • Comment by Jordan Rouden — September 28, 2010 @ 8:01 pm

    Carol, it’s not your being offended that is the issue. The issue is those who question either directly or through their implied speech that such people do not know Christ. THAT is the issue. When someone says “You will never see a person on the burning stake with a shirt on like that. I repeat…….you will never see a true Christian on the stake being burned alive with a shirt on there chest that conveys that kind of message.” and “Sad to say that no true saint would wear that irreverent material.” That’s the issue.
    It’s just like the Pharisee and the tax collector in Luke 18:9-14 “He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 28, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

    Just a note here…
    Not only am I not Todd Friel, I am not Jordan Rouden either.

  • Comment by Scott Webber — September 28, 2010 @ 8:26 pm

    I can’t help but wonder… if the guy on the right were standing in the fire, how long would it take for it to burn? God is my Dad, or more accurately my Heavenly Father (Papa works- ie ‘abba’). God will by His own hand burn up with fire all the refuse. When the time comes and the rubber meets the road (ie. persecussion) that T-shirt will be the last thing he will be the first thing to be hidden, and, if his faith is real, it will be the last thing he things he will use to defend it.

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 28, 2010 @ 9:15 pm

    Can someone tell me how to link my picture to the comments like some of you fine folks do?

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 28, 2010 @ 9:16 pm

    Could someone that is.

  • Comment by Angus — September 28, 2010 @ 9:36 pm

    BW: Go to the Gravatar website and set up a personal avatar that will be linked to your comments. HERE.

  • Comment by juppi — September 29, 2010 @ 10:51 am

    Good day dear Holy Sandwiches!
    I read here occasionally.
    I would like to say something about the style of the comic.
    The picture is, unfortunately, by the standards of Latin script built upside down. (no, leftside right…)
    the Wool tunic should be left and the right T-shirt, so the picture caption “Then and Now” is right.

  • Comment by Carol — September 29, 2010 @ 7:37 pm

    Jordan, please don’t call me a Pharisee because I question someone’s maturity for wearing such a t shirt. While I agree with the person who commented that one needs to lovingly point out the way to express one’s faith besides shirts, but that’s just wrong to call me that because I pointed out it’s a nasty t shirt and questioning someone who would wear it. There’s more sympathy towards the dude with the homeboy shirt than the martyr who suffered on the stake.

    How bad is this? Is there little wonder why the Christian faith lacks power in most non believers’ eyes? They see that kind of shirt and wonder what’s so great about being a Christian and going to “church”.

  • Comment by Jordan Rouden — September 29, 2010 @ 9:25 pm

    I didn’t label you Pharisee because of your question of someone’s maturity about wearing a shirt, I used the label because you said this “Sad to say that no true saint would wear that irreverent material.” in your very first post.
    I have no problem with someone’s concern for the spiritual maturity of the person who wears this shirt, even I said the same. My issue is when you crossed the line from that, to saying they aren’t saved.
    No, non believers don’t question the validity of Christianity because of a lame “christian” shirt. They question the validity of Christianity because of the typical christian’s attitude outside of the sunday morning service. They see the christian in the work place, they see them at the store. They hear the gossip, the “white-lies”. They see the impatience that christians have with each other and especially with the world. They see the christianity as powerless and worthless because of pastors that fall publicly, or conservative right wing politicians are taken down due to immorality.
    Non-believers slander christianity because of our own hypocrisy. Because we still sin, because we still fall. Because in our own pride we don’t ask for forgiveness from others when we wrong them. It says in Hebrews 4:12 that the Word of God judges the thoughts and even the intentions of the heart. Yet so often in our callousness we swing that two-edged sword all over the place, but are so very careful not to touch the blade ourselves. That is why the world thinks christianity is worthless, and powerless.

  • Comment by dominic — September 30, 2010 @ 2:20 am

    I have a hoodie with a picture of a man leading a donkey which is carrying a bible on it – am I allowed to wear that?

  • Comment by Bereanwarrior — September 30, 2010 @ 7:04 pm

    Thanks Angus!

  • Comment by Carol — September 30, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

    That’s why we need to stay even more closer to the Bible than ever because of the times we live in, and a high number of people have a fuzzy idea of what Biblical truths are. And that we are to be a peculiar people, set apart from the world. We can take the lesson to heart less of the world’s influence, meaning less tv, less of films and other media that distract us from how we should be conducting our lives.

    Not that wearing a t shirt with a Bible verse, or some image that stirs one’s heart, but people need to use discretion when choosing attire to represent, or share our beliefs. The individual needs to be responsible for their own actions and words, and even in their choice of dressing, rather than follow a leader or group that may not be the best example of church or how a saint should present themselves to the world, or other believers.

    We are all on a journey, and some are further along than others, Lord help those of us who have a way to go, and I’m including myself. And those more mature saints, bear with those of us who have had a more troubled journey and have hit many potholes along the way.

  • Comment by Tex — October 1, 2010 @ 12:56 pm

    I wonder where I can find the ‘Jesus is my Homeboy’ shirt. I would wear it if I was being burned at the stake, getting my head chopped off, etc..

  • Comment by Tater2000 — October 1, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

    “Jesus Is My Homeboy” is a dumb thing to have on a shirt anyway. The world doesn’t need “home boy” it needs a Savior and Christians need a “Lord”. People who THINK they evangelising wear shirts like that. Sold out Christians wear shirts that say “homeless shelter volunteer”.
    (Or maybe “God’s Gym”. That’s a good one. Or “Petra Unseen Power Tour 1992″.)

  • Comment by Tater2000 — October 14, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

    I had to come back when I saw this on Christian Post.com
    http://www.christianpost.com/article/20101013/jesus-isnt-your-homeboy/

  • Comment by LisaP — October 25, 2010 @ 1:48 pm

    Love it, thanks for the post. Ther isn’t a lot of quality christian fashion available today. It is either for the youth or sadly, very tacky. Because of this a friend and I started our own company called a2d which sells quality Christian leather goods and jewelry, check us out!

  • Comment by Leslie P — February 22, 2011 @ 9:26 am

    This is what we call “satire”. I’m thinking the ‘homeboy’ t-shirt represents t-shirts with Christian messages in general, of which I have a fair few myself. Being a Christian has nothing to do with what you wear and everything to do with where your heart is and how you present yourself in public by your ACTIONS.
    …and no you won’t see anyone being burned at the stake wearing a t-shirt like this… pretty sure i haven’t seen anyone burned at the stake lately. :)

  • Comment by mrs. Beee — March 23, 2011 @ 5:02 pm

    Wearing a “Christian” t- shirt like this is more fruit of the loom than fruit of the spirit. In whatever you do, in word or deed, do it unto the Lord. I think a valid question that should be asked is… What are God’s preferences? We all know what western Christians prefer, but what did He state as His preference in culture and attire? After all, He is our Father… Many people would say, well He created me, and He created my desires, so whatever I want, He wants because He loves me and wants me to be happy. Very convenient and works nicely with secular humanist
    tendencies in our culture. I’m not sure that is what He is actually after though. By the way, I don’t think He wishes for His children to be burned in wool tunics either, but we live in a sinful, fallen world.

  • Comment by Robert — June 14, 2011 @ 11:40 am

    Oncetuponatime, alongtimeago, “homeboy” was illustrated to me as “you’re one of us, you’re one for life & we’ll die so you live” … of course, they’d also steal, kill or any other thing.
    We’ve got to be careful about using “foreign” language lest we encumber the Gospel of Truth with meanings it doesn’t have. Just because a term has common parlance does not mean it is devoid of its previous “foreign” meaning.
    Yes, Jesus died that I could live … and yes, I will die so He might be honored … but He gave no authority to me to kill in His name, or steal, or “any other thing”.
    So … pass the wool.

  • Comment by Adam Cummings — October 17, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

    I do not agree at all that what matters is the heart, as some suggest in the comments here. I recall back when I was a kid… ahem, like, a few years ago (some would still call me a kid)… Carmen singing, “Who’s in the house? JC!” I think it’s extremely disrespectful. He is your friend, yes. Your homeboy? No. He is your benevolent king, full of mercy and grace. Would you presume on a royal king that showed you favor and brought you into His house, walk up to him, slap him on the butt and cackle, “Wuttup, homeboy?” If you say it’s in the “heart” of whomever is wearing such a shirt, then you’ve succumbed to the postmodern idea that there is no real meaning in words. So, respectfully, that should be considered before making too many comments of that nature. No offense to the commenters. All love intended. :) But, I’ve seen this crowd. I’ve been in a prayer group where a guy with this mentality prayed, “Lord, be coo. Just hang with us today. Amen!” Trust me; the Lord was NOT pleased with this prayer. Very good post. I’m not against wearing Christian items at all. But, I am against that being your only Christianity, and I am against treating Jesus like some dawg of yours.

    Remembering King Jesus,
    Adam

  • Comment by filthy dog — December 13, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

    If the tee shirt was not disrespectful but more tasteful eg: a simple cross and a scripture like JOHN 11:30 I and my Father are one. would that be acceptable and prehaps be a more positive debate ,I wear several such tee shirts , I choose them carefully and my reason is if someone reads the message displayed , it may prick there conscious or encourage them to faith ?

  • Comment by Juan Jeanniton — April 19, 2013 @ 12:20 pm

    Dear Sirs,

    I am glad that you have brought up this issue! These modern innovators who say “Jesus is my Homeboy” (i.e. on a level with one’s worldly friends and casual “chums”, or in any manner like unto THEIR sort of casual informal “friendship”) need to be told EXACTLY what an American Orthodox rabbi told his congregation in 1867!

    ‘Orthodoxy is not that unbending, unyielding, bigoted opposition to improvement which our opponents represent it; it understands perfectly well what the spirit of the age requires. But it can yield nothing to public clamour, nor to the demands that seekers of innovation may make’ that public worship be willing, ready, and able to relax or abrogate any of its distinctive fundamentals in order to ‘accomdate itself to every phase of history. Such a religion would be none at all.’ – Isaac Leeser, Discourses on the Jewish religion – Volume 9 – Page 90.

    Yes, Jesus is meek and lowly in heart and affable unto us. But ALL the earth shall be filled with the glory of the Lord. The true Christian faith is that Jesus Christ is very God, no less than that He is very Man. And we must REVERENCE and FEAR Jesus AS GOD. St. John Chrysostom understood this! Yet modern Christians of the 21st century wanted to behave towards Jesus like these fallen Romanoid “christians” of St. John Chrysostom’s own ARCH-DIOCESE of the 4th century AD, professing faithful attendance to the Church’s sacred meetings, assemblies, and synaxes, dared PRESUME to behave!

    To wit, these very same people would not dare to RUN THEIR MOUTHS or even whisper anything nor even privately and quietly greet their friends when attending a worldly heathen spectacle of a buffoon moving to laughter, or a raunchy meretricious abandoned harlot dancing for the entertainment of the male members of the audience! Yet they raise such a TUMULT and CRY in Church!

    http://novusmedioaevo.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_archive.html:

    ‘John Chrysostom in Antioch (before 398), (24) Ambrose in Milan (339-397), (25) Augustine (d. 430) in North Africa, (26) and Caesarius of Arles (503-542) (27) all bemoan the alcoholic vigils of their clergy and flocks. Augustine even had to admonish the newly baptized youngsters not to show up drunk at vespers on Easter evening! (28)

    Chrysostom in Constantinople (398-404) accuses his congregation of roaming around during church services; of either ignoring the preacher (30) or pushing and shoving to get nearer to hear him, (31) when not bored or downright exasperated with him;(32) of talking, especially during the scripture lessons ; (33) of leaving before the services are over; (34) and, in general, of causing an uproar and acting as if they were in the forum or barbershop-or worse still, in a tavern or whorehouse (35)-his words, not mine.

    The women cause distractions by the way they deck themselves out in finery, makeup, and jewelry. (36) The youth, whom Chrysostom calls “filth rather than youth,” spend their time in church laughing, joking, talking, he says. (37) The large crowd at the Easter Vigil is more a mob than a congregation, he tells us. They come to church like they go to the baths or the forum, without devotion or spiritual profit. “It would be better to stay at home,” the exasperated Chrysostom concludes. (38)

    The way the sexes behave in church just exacerbated the general scandal of church-going in Constantinople, according to Chrysostom. The presider greets those in church with “peace,” but the reality he has to face is more, he says, like “all-out warfare” everywhere. “Great is the tumult, great the confusion here in church! Our assemblies differ in nothing from a tavern, so loud is the laughter, so great the disturbance, just as in the baths, in the markets, with everyone shouting and causing an uproar!… [In church] we behave more impudently than dogs, and pay as much respect to God as to a whore!… The church … is no different from the forum… nor probably even from the stage, from the way the women who assemble here adorn themselves more wantonly than the unchaste ones there! Hence we see that many profligates are enticed here by them, and if anyone is trying or intending to corrupt a woman, I suppose no place seems better than the church! (39)

    “For indeed,” he continues, “if one could see what is said by men and women at each synaxis, you would see that their talk is filthier than excrement!” (40) Chrysostom says things were so bad they needed a wall in church to keep the men and women apart! (41) Similarly, Augustine in North Africa complains that in church the men move in and out, chattering and making dates with their lady friends, (42) (as indeed Augustine himself did before his conversion, according to his own Confessions).’

    Yet we are repeating the very SAME mistakes! And vulgarity in the affairs of religion can never be religious or pious! Vulgarity in religious and ecclesiastical affairs is INTRINSICALLY and ESSENTIALLY IRRELIGIOUS and IMPIOUS!

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