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December9th

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Churchgoers are notorious for not wanting to sit in the front row during worship service— at least in most of the churches I’ve attended in the past. I used to think it was because the attendees wanted a certain level of anonymity or perhaps the freedom to easily slip out of the room if they felt the need. But lately I’ve decided that some folks are sitting in the back row because they don’t want to hear anyone sitting behind them.

Have you ever been in the middle of a church service, trying to focus on singing a hymn or contemplating the sermon, when two people sitting behind you suddenly felt compelled to have a short, but apparently unavoidable discussion about the amazing absorption of the Sham Wow? Oh sure, they try to whisper politely, but they might as well use a bullhorn. Against the backdrop of dedicated corporate worship, such muted chatter can often sound like nails on a chalkboard.

After pondering this issue, I came up with a list of remarks that I really, really don’t want to hear behind me during church service. Here are just a few:

  • “Dude, I’m gonna hafta call you back. We’re about to pray or something.”
  • “Boo-oooo!”
  • “The pastor looks really cute today.”
  • “Mommy, my tummy doesn’t feel good. I think I’m gonna throw uh—erpleeeeeck!” (Accompanied by a splashing sound against my seat.)
  • “Hey there, ladies… nice bibles. You come here often?”
  • “Zzzzzzzzzz…”
  • “Sweet! I just scored the last Krispy Kreme at the snack table.”
  • “He’s good, but he’s no Joyce Meyer.”
  • “Dang it, I grabbed my Bhagavad-Gita by mistake. The Message Bible is still in the Prius next to my yoga mat.”
  • “You think they’ll mind if I use the offering basket to break a five?”
  • “Seven-day sex challenge? Now you’re talking, pastor!”
  • “I can’t see the pulpit. The guy in front of me has a melon that could show up on Google Earth.”

Okay, that last one was a little too close to home for me, but I’m sure the reader can come up with worse possibilities. The point I’m trying to make is that perhaps we have become a bit too casual during our services, and our churches have become more like coffeehouses and movie theaters instead of places of corporate worship.

Believe me, I’ve seen it happen before. One Sunday morning, back in the summer of 2001, my wife and I had entered into worship in a church where we formerly held membership. We had begun a sincere, heartfelt worship of God, singing praise to Him: fixing our heart and mind on our Lord and Savior, when instantly that focus was broken. The lights dimmed, a large screen came down from the ceiling, and a movie clip from Apollo 13 was projected above the pulpit as a dramatic lead-in to the sermon. Suddenly, we were no longer in a worship service, but in a theater watching the big screen. That’s when we heard a woman behind us whisper with delight, “I love this movie… Isn’t Tom Hanks great?”

Wow. All she was missing was the hot buttered popcorn.

So let’s not forget the focus and purpose of these worship gatherings, folks. I suggest you read Hebrews 12 which ends with the following summation: “Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire.”

And the people sitting behind us said… “Amen!’

71 Comments

  • Comment by Eddie Eddings — December 9, 2008 @ 4:44 pm

    Cell phones going off are a huge distraction…especially, when someone in Church has their ringtone, “A Whole Lotta Love” by Led Zepplin.

  • Comment by Adrian — December 9, 2008 @ 5:21 pm

    I’ve been going to a church in a movie theater with comfy seats. The worship there is pretty much your basic charismatic worship along with big screen and videos of the ocean, mountains, nature, people raising hands and the Cross from time to time.

    There’s a lot of distraction from all the people (in front not back :P ) that answer their phones or text… And yes Tom Hanks has appeared on that big screen in one topical sermon. Maybe more than once I’m not sure…

    The preaching and worship may not be that good but the seats, popcorn, and hot dogs taste great!

  • Comment by Jim — December 9, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

    As Garrison Keillor sez, we Lutherans get to service early to snag the good seats in the back!

  • Comment by Overboardbriggs — December 10, 2008 @ 12:32 am

    Friends…if you would meet in homes instead of a “worshiptainment auditorium/temple/building/center” like God intended from the Book of Acts until He retuned, we wouldn’t be having this topic. The Spirit of Prophecy,ie Jesus, commands His true sheep to once again “come out of her (the harlot apostate evangelical-protestant-and RC churches)touch not the unclean thing…lest ye be partaking of her plagues..”-Rev 18:4

  • Comment by Eddie Eddings — December 10, 2008 @ 7:07 am

    I’m all for meeting in homes…but, you still have the cell phone curse to deal with. “The ringing thou hast not prevented. And a thrashing with wheat stalks shall be thy due punishment. For the merchants of the earth have waxed rich with the assortment of tones. Lament and wail for your bill is in the mail.” First Opinions 3:17

  • Comment by Steve — December 10, 2008 @ 8:13 am

    Eddie,
    Which is worse…a cell phone ring from Led Zeppelin, or when the Pastor quotes from Led Zeppelin?

    “Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream. I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been. To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen. They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed.”

  • Comment by Steve — December 10, 2008 @ 12:19 pm

    In my first pastorate, dear Norman would clip his fingernails during the service.

    There’s nothing like preaching emotionally:

    “Dear friends, by the mercies of Christ I implore you today to forsake worldliness that we may be used of the sovereign Lord to…”

    SNIP!

    “…further His Kingdom for the glory of Christ….”

    SNIP!

    “…All right. Let’s pray.”

  • Comment by GrampyJack — December 10, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

    Currently I attend a church where you don’t hear much during
    the services…..all the old folks are asleep, and the young have gone to childrens church………..I remember a few years
    ago, when I complained because of the view from the choir area…I could see the young mothers nursing their babes, rather
    than take them to the nursery…….may we all return to a time
    when we remember why we are there……not to talk (turn off the
    blaste cell phone), not to be comfy….not to nurse…..but to
    hear the word of God, preached from the Bible…….For all have
    sined, and fall short……..

  • Comment by David — December 10, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

    The one about the puking kid took me back. One fine cold season there was a child coughing, sniffling and gagging behind us. To say this did nothing for our worship is an understatement, but she suddenly let fly with a loud and sloppy sneeze.

    Father: “She didn’t.”

    Mother: “She did.”

    I couldn’t look. We avoided sitting in front of them again, so there you go.

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  • Comment by Carol — December 10, 2008 @ 7:49 pm

    Gee, I thought the reason that people didn’t sit in the front rows was for fear of “pastor spit” from a spirit filled sermon given by a solid Bible teacher….what am I saying? Where are spirit filled sermons by solid Bible teachers anymore? Without a high tech sound system and a powerpoint system, casual clothing and clowns…most post modern pastors would not know a solid Bible teaching if it hit them in the head.

    Now for another list of annoying conversation behind you in church….

    “My hot flashes were so bad I had to stick my head in the frozen food section…”

    “Who told the woman who did “special music” that she could sing?”

    “If I don’t leave to get to the restroom…..”

    Oh, and the loud, uncovered sneeze to the back of the head….

    “church” people need to learn manners!

  • Comment by Linda George — December 11, 2008 @ 1:47 am

    How about a water fight in forty degree (celsius) heat in good old Taree, Australia? My best friend’s husband poured (bottled) water down my back, which was nice and cool until we all stood up and the lady behind me took her breath in rapidly. I think she thought I had disgraced myself. I had to get up to play music at the end. A bit embarrasing to say the least… Air conditioning sure was an improvement…

  • Comment by Gary Zimmerli — December 11, 2008 @ 3:47 pm

    One Sunday my daughter-in-law’s cell phone went off in church. The ringtone was her sister’s voice saying, “Come on, I know you’re there! Answer the d*** phone!” Right in the middle of the sermon. She makes sure her phone is set on silent in church now.

  • Comment by Angus — December 11, 2008 @ 3:52 pm

    Oops!

  • Comment by Eric — December 13, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

    In my first pastorate the pulpit was all of 5 feet from the front row. On Christmas Eve (my FIRST Christmas eve service), the church was packed and the first pew was actually in use; DURING the sermon 2 women were having a lively and loud conversation about hair color. I learned what color she dyed her hair, what she did to hide this fact from her husband and how to block out distractions while preaching!

  • Comment by Angus — December 13, 2008 @ 3:51 pm

    That’s funny, Eric! But what great training in patience.

  • Comment by jdubb — December 18, 2008 @ 10:06 am

    I love that someone referred to the apostate church as the harlot of Rev 18 and no one jumped down his throat. This is a great website!

  • Comment by Rita M. — December 23, 2008 @ 11:40 am

    Thanks for this post Bohemian Baptist!! I thought I was the only one with such concerns!! I never sit in front just because…but it doesn’t matter where I sit, its never safe…I’ve had people in front of me break into a serious conversation in the middle of the worship time…and it’s unavoidable to look at them because I’m a tiny person…Or what about those people who came late to church and dare look for a seat in the front rows, I’ve been late to church but I sit in the back where I know I won’t bother anyone while they are worshipping…I’ve had people actually interrupt me during worship so that they can sit at the end of the row (!!!)

  • Comment by emergent pillage — December 24, 2008 @ 12:18 pm

    –For all have
    sined, and fall short……..–

    Can I say that I’ve cosined?

    Or is that going off on a tangent?

    (and that’s about all I remember from the higher maths :-)

  • Comment by Genoa Jack — December 25, 2008 @ 8:48 pm

    If I should ever be Pastor for a day…
    … I would start the service by asking all to stand, extend both arms, and shuffle about until they are not touching another person in any direction.
    It is fortunate that, since I am Pastor, attendance would leave plenty of room to accomodate such a social protocol.

  • Comment by B — January 7, 2009 @ 3:52 pm

    Hilarious post . . . and the Apollo 13 clip makes me wonder if we went to the same church at some point. lol

  • Comment by Mary Fuller — January 26, 2009 @ 6:28 am

    I have the opposite problem. Since I’m a visual learner, I am easily distracted by what I SEE. So I tend to sit up toward the front so I’m not distracted by Sally cleaning her nails, two kids poking each other, Uncle Fred’s bobbing bald head…

    This is one of the reasons I play in the church orchestra. I’m busy playing and worshipping, and can’t be distracted — now between songs, I get to look over the whole congregation and have my fill of amusement. Seriously, though, I really find it much easier to focus on the object of my worship when I’m in the orchestra than when I’m in the pew (well, seats at our church).

  • Comment by Terry — February 5, 2009 @ 4:17 pm

    I guess the immorality of the harlot comes from the building we call church, not a home; it couldn’t be that the harlot is not brought in by the sinful people, could it.

  • Comment by Tom Lewis — February 5, 2009 @ 11:10 pm

    There was this church I used to go to where we’d pass around the bread (flat crackers) first and then take the fruit of the vine (grape juice) next for the Lord’s Supper.

    A Catholic visitor behind me kept saying “Aren’t we going to get the holy communion?…but I thought we were going to get the holy communion…ohhhh!…this IS the holy communion!

    And I happen to be a deaf guy so she had to say it pretty loud for the entire congregation to hear it.

    I like to sit up front so I can read the lips of whoever’s preaching that day but I did experience the part of folks sitting directly behind me and letting out their sneezing and coughing fits, just so I feel a cool misty blast on the back of my neck and the air around my head. I know I’m supposed to be understanding and loving…but this happens to be my pet peeve…if you know what I mean…

    I find it helps to take a deep breath and hold my breath as long as I could during these episodes so I don’t breathe in their sickness and the funny smell. Then after the sermon, I go home and take a shower and throw my church clothes in the laundry to be washed and sanitized with Lysol for my safety.

    Quite of few little kids and babies have grabbed my hair on the back of my neck and jumped off their seats at the same time. It does help me to stay awake for the rest of the sermon, so, no complaints there. But I wondered where their parents are at.

    Yes, my hair is very short.

  • Comment by leonard — February 11, 2009 @ 9:02 am

    I still like it where it says in the bible…

    Ephesians 4:29

    Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth,
    but that which is good to the edifying,
    that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

    Now that’s a hard one to live by…

  • Comment by Philippa — February 12, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

    Hilarious! Eddie Eddings, I share your love of the great book of First Opinions :-)

    My personal favourite was a couple right in front of me who were reading the newspaper during the sermon. I guess the local coffee shop was full.

  • Comment by Bob — February 23, 2009 @ 12:39 am

    Man, I knew I shouldn’t have eaten that leftover burrito for breakfast.

  • Comment by PanolaPaul — February 23, 2009 @ 3:00 am

    or………..
    “I’ve got $20 that says we’re not outta here by high noon..”

  • Comment by alice — February 24, 2009 @ 12:49 am

    i love all the comments on here. it comforts me to knows that i am not just a complainer when i say i want to go to church to worship and hear the word of God preached.
    i am absolutely amazed at the number of people who do not seem to know how to behave in church. i know many would accuse me of been stuck in old fashioned traditional ways but i say bring on the old days if what goes on now in some places gets any worse.
    one of my big gripes is – seening all the young girls with flesh hanging out on top, middle and bottom. nobody but nobody says anything but i now wonder how many think what i think “girl friend go home and get some covering on you!”
    it must be very difficult to not have men lusting after the flesh in these situation.
    i certainly think – it wouldnt do for a bit of proper teaching in the churches on how to behave and dress. after all if i was going to meet the queen i probably wouldnt dress inappropriately or have my mobile phone going off and i wouldnt allow my kidz swing out of somebody’s hair and shoot their snot over the queens furniture.
    we definitely need to be taught some manners.
    it is all very funny but also very sad. i know God accepts up as we are but He also wants to change the way we are. some of us need help desperately.

  • Comment by LuLu — March 3, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

    I don’t know what’s worse anymore;what you don’t want to hear behind you or what you don’t want your husband to see in front of him:the 16-year-old in the “praise band” on “stage” in her “micro-mini”skirt,the three women in see-through blouses(did I mention this was one of the deacon’s daughters and wife?), the girls from the local “Christian” college with their brand-spanking-new sacral area tatoos,or the woman who bent over to put her cell phone in her purse and proved that “thongs” are not just for the feet anymore! We are currently “home-churching”.

  • Comment by mrsbucket — March 3, 2009 @ 6:29 pm

    This was really a great post. I loved reading all your experiences. I remember one Sunday evening watching a woman do her crossword puzzle during the sermon. And the Pastor’s wife text messaging her boyfriend. (did not know this until much later)

    Alice the church I used to go to (same with Pastor’s wifey and boyfriend) had these “modesty cloths” they used to cover the young ladies butt cracks when they felt compelled to hit the altar in repentance or prayer. I know I always wear low rise jeans and belly tops when praying or repenting.

    I miss the days when the Sanctuary was actually that, a place where we still had at least a little reverence for being in God’s house. Those house churches sound pretty good to me!

  • Comment by Susie — March 6, 2009 @ 11:27 am

    Hi,

    This is my first time to read on this site. I have experiecnced some of the same things at churches. Once at a revival in another church our world-famous pastor, his wife and his best friend And wife came late. I was so embarrassed. I did not admit he was my pastor to anyone. He and his male friend that came with him played a hand held gameboy during the service.

    Then of all the nerve pastor’s wife gets up to leave. A couple minutes later pastor leaves. They think no one is noticing their rude behavior. Next Friend’s wife leaves, after a few minutes friend leaves. They never returned. I guess that thought if all (4) of them left together it would be noticed. If they left one at a time a few minutes apart no one would notice. How very rude to the visiting pastor.

    My friend always calls herself a back-row-baptist. She says if she get to hot under conviction she can slip out the door, go home, turn on Joel Olsten and let him pat her and make her feel better. hahaha

    Sussie

  • Comment by Wpg_Canada — March 6, 2009 @ 1:08 pm

    YOU ARE A RACIST AND A BIGOT!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!! HOW CAN YOU MAKE FUN ON HINDUISM AND THE BHAGAVAD-GITA??? IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO GIVE THE IDEA TO THE REST OF US THAT CHRISTIANS ARE A BUNCH OF BIGOTS. WELL MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

  • Comment by Angus — March 6, 2009 @ 1:28 pm

    Wow, Wpg_Canada. Take a deep breath. The idea that the Bhagavad-Gita has no place in a Christian church is hardly racist or bigoted. But I doubt if that fact stops you from deciding Christians are bigots anyway.

  • Comment by Wpg_Canada — March 6, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

    Angus,

    Some of those statements could be true; I don’t doubt that, but some are sarcastic including the comment about the Bhagavad-Gita. By being sarcastic, it is making fun of another religion. The author did not think about that fully and in essence is showing himself to be intolerant to other ideas. I understand the point of this article completely but the author did not have to include that statement. That’s all I’m saying.

  • Comment by Angus — March 6, 2009 @ 4:09 pm

    Wpg_Canada:
    The object of the sarcasm in question is the make-believe Christian churchgoer who appears to be holding the Bhagavad-Gita with the same reverence/authority as the Bible. At no time does the author “make fun” of the Bhagavad-Gita directly. Nevertheless, let me make one thing clear. Since this is a Christian website, we hold to the belief that the Bible is the Word of God, and that the Bhagavad-Gita is not. If you cannot accept our right to hold this belief in word and deed, then it is you who is intolerant of another religion.

  • Comment by Georgia — March 9, 2009 @ 11:58 pm

    Wpg-Canada,

    I once had the pleasure of a wonderful convo with an Indian woman discussing why she simply could NOT STAND people trying to convert her or others. She then began to talk about how all religions were good and true and etc, etc, etc, It was then I said, “Now woman it is YOU who are trying to CONVERT me!” She gave a charming little smile and I hope she understood I was not joking.
    Point being that when Hindus make such statements they are so wrapped up in their own worldview, they cannot conceive that logically another view even has the right to exist and then become the very thing they claim to hate.

    Hindus, as I understand, do not regard absolute or ultimate truth to be found in a specific religion as such. Therefore, religions are to be valued as all basically equally valid. This makes sense in its own worldview.
    Conversely, Christians DO find absolute and ultimate truth in a faith directly revealed by God. Other religions, even Christianity poorly practiced, are seen as man’s attempt to please a god they do not know well. Or to gain favors from such god by certain rites or practices, many of which we find to be spiritually enslaving, emotionally manipulative, darkening the understanding and ultimately exchanging of the Glory of God for a lie- a half truth- a created thing.
    Further, we don’t believe that just one type of religion- polytheism–does this. We believe they ALL do. Even the non religious do it. A fancy name for it is conceptual idolatry. When I seek my comfort, my refuge, my meaning, my security in ANY created thing— I am an idolator. And that idol, if I do not return it in my heart and mind’s eye to the level of created thing, that idol will eventually DESTROY me even if, and sometimes especially if, I forsake it.

    And yes, we believe we ourselves are often the biggest idolators of all.

    When speaking of Christianity and Hinduism friend, there is simply NO reconciling the two worldviews. In fact, if one is right the other is most certainly wrong or vice versa. This is simple logic. This is why C.S. Lewis asserted that all religions were derivative of either Hinduism or Judeo-Christianity. Most Hindus find that statement to be complimentary– and it is.
    The joke essentially states we don’t want to hear someone in church talk about how they think they can do two things at the same time like eat ice cream and not eat ice cream.

    With Respect,
    Georgia

  • Comment by jean — March 15, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

    What irony – I recently visited a church held in a building with a catchy new phrase that I suspected was Emergent or somewhere on the emergent scale.
    well, you know that popcorn that was missing above? hey, it as at THIS church…with candy and drinks…uh huh. and a five minute spongebob squarepants cartoon ~ ! no kidding. Talk about seeker friendly friendly, yikes~ The irony is that when the pastor finally got ‘on stage’, his message was good. however, i’m not convinced by one message, esp. with all the other accuetrements that accompanied :) that message.

  • Comment by J.R. Spencer — March 20, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

    I love this commentary. The list Bohmeian came up with it VERY funny. Keep up the good work.

    P.S. – I know this was posted back in December But I just discovered this site! I have been digging into everything I can get ahold of here. Wonderful!

  • Comment by J.R. Spencer — March 20, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

    *Bohemian

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  • Comment by Rose — March 25, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

    Once I actually heard this on a Sunday night…

    The pastor was giving an extended altar call, which was not his usual practice, especially on a Sunday night. There were several people in that church who went to Pizza Hut every Sunday night.

    As the altar call dragged on, I heard the man behind me say,

    “I wish he’d hush. We’re not EVER going to get our pizza.”

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  • Comment by Bev — April 3, 2009 @ 8:54 pm

    No problem with cell phones in my church … it’s in a dead zone … absolutely no reception. It is great!

  • Comment by Larry Geiger — April 13, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

    Number 4.
    Been there, done that!
    Yuck!

  • Comment by Aaron L. — April 15, 2009 @ 8:31 am

    “Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire.”

    AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

  • Comment by Meg — April 26, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

    Hows this for a distraction. One of the elders (sitting in the front row) who is a man in his eighties – passes out. His head lolls back against his chair. He is just sitting there looking for all the world like a beached goldfish. Everyone within visual range freezes thinking he has just died. The preacher just keeps on a preachin even though he can see what has happened. Finally one of the congregation who is an OBGYN gets out of his seat to see to the old gentleman, arranges an ambulance and shuffles him out of the church. He wasn’t dead, turns out his blood pressure medication was too strong. All this time, nobody dares look, nobody says a thing and pretends it never happened. It was a stupid church by the way and we no longer attend.

    Funny thing was, after church I overhead two little boys who had been sitting behind the old guy when he keeled over. “Did you see how Uncle Bob’s tongue hung out of his mouth when he fainted? It was so COOL!”

  • Comment by Jazzfretless — May 4, 2009 @ 9:36 am

    How about a preacher using “Seinfeld” references, especially, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”. I know it was (over and over for many years) meant sarcastically, but 1) it refers to homosexuality, B) not everyone has seen that episode of Seinfeld, and III)how bout some ’splainin when you say something like that, or at the very least teach the truth about what wss just said.

  • Comment by Irma — May 11, 2009 @ 1:00 pm

    I know!!!!

    I have been church shopping and we found a little church to attend yesterday. My child wanted to sit in the front row (yikes!).

    All I heard behind me was people worshiping, singing God’s praises, and alot of “thank you Jesus”.

    Imagine! Where do they think they are! :p

    (I think we will go back!)

  • Comment by SavedGirl — May 16, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

    I loved this list and the 1st Opinions quote. I did want to say that you hear plenty of things in home church too. I used to attend a home church but it ended because not enough people were committed. We were one of the founding families so it was sad. But there were several little children in the church that provided plenty of distractions on Sunday, especially when it was at our house and they were tearing it up. When you are worried whether your glass table is going to hold up under the beating it is taking or if their shoes are going to leave stains on the couch it can be hard to concentrate on the sermon. We have found a nice little church that is family integrated and the closest thing to a home church that we can find. The preaching is very solid and we are very happy with the church.

    Lulu

  • Comment by jsmiddleton4 — May 20, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

    “in my church … it’s in a dead zone …”

    I wet myself…… Now THAT’S funny!

  • Comment by J-Ra — May 25, 2009 @ 10:44 pm

    Overboardbriggs, I’m afraid you have taken that verse terribly out of context. “the harlot apostate evangelical-protestant-and RC churches” that you inserted into the verse is not even close to implied in that verse, or chapter. The voice from heaven is talking about Babylon, not some church that met in a building rather than a home. Y’know, even Jesus taught in the synagogue.

  • Comment by A.C.S — June 15, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

    Is there a pre-requisite to becoming Emergent? Like, all those former Bible Based churches must first ‘transition’ in a theater? or Begin reading scripture from a typed paper instead of an actual Bible…but keep it in your hand! or, start a facebook/twitter/myspace page and keep all your Emergent ideas there seperate from what is preached at church until your congregants are ready to be Emergent With you? yeah…some churches are already in a dead zone. Things I hate to hear from the isle…”When did our church loose it’s salt and light.”

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  • Comment by CrazyLady — July 14, 2009 @ 12:49 am

    After a long hiatus of avoiding church, my husband and I decided at the last minute to go to a local charismatic church. We got there late, during praise & worship. A smiling usher led us to our seat – in the FRONT row! WTH??? The front row was empty, except for us – like it was reserved for latecomers or visitors.

    Other than nearly getting slapped by the praise dancers, it wasn’t too bad. Not going there again though.

  • Comment by Shaggy — July 24, 2009 @ 10:24 am

    My daughter 5 year old daughter has this Shaggy doll from Scooby Doo. We didnt know it talked. We are in church and she has her Shaggy doll with her. Its quiet, the preacher is preaching. And you hear “Zoiks! Like, let’s get otta here!”.

  • Comment by Kim — August 13, 2009 @ 9:25 am

    I feel *all* sermons smack of theater! Passive pulpit-warmers watching the show! How about we all uphold the word and give words of edification?

  • Comment by Carey — August 30, 2009 @ 2:16 am

    Where have any of you gone to church where it went exactly like the Bible says it should?

  • Comment by Andrew Dow — September 1, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

    I have endured many distractions over the years…although I am very easily distracted.

    I once heard noises behind me and turned my head to find the Pastor’s wife nursing her 4 year old son over my shoulder.

    While attending a service in an old church building with hardwood floors, someone dropped the change they were about to put in the offering plate and some of the coins rolled for at least a minute.

    While preaching I was distracted by someone in the second row trying to get my attention and discovered that they were pointing out that my zipper was down, by this time most of the rest of the church clued in and I turned around to zip up while the place went hysterical with laughter. Still managed to finish the sermon though!

    I have also caused distractions as a teen. My best friend in Junior High was the Pastors son and one Sunday we sat in the middle of the church and tried to make each other laugh while his Dad was preaching. Sunddenly, part way through a sentence, his Dad stopped speaking, looked directly at us and said “Dave, Andrew, see me in my office after church” then he proceeded to pick up the thought and keep preaching! Talk about being scared silent!

    I heard this story from my brother just recently. A friend of his attends a rather large church and was sitting behind an elderly couple one Sunday. Part way through the sermon the woman turns to look at my friend and says “My husband is dead.” Thinking that she is mistaken and that he has fallen asleep he reaches over the seat and feels for the man’s pulse…sure enough the guy is dead, no pulse! After alerting the usher and finding a member who is a paramedic, they manage to revive the man and send him to the hospital. Talk about being Preached to death!

  • Comment by Suz — September 4, 2009 @ 8:11 pm

    This is my first visit to this site. Enjoyed it very much. Must say, sometimes the spirit just does not MOVE a person. Be a CHRISTIAN, we have all been guilty.

  • Comment by Angus — September 5, 2009 @ 7:31 am

    Amen, Suz.

  • Comment by Jessica Fox — September 5, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

    I so enjoyed reading the article and was reminded of the lady that sits behind me in church and says, “Shut up!” during the sermon. The first time I heard it I was appalled that she would have the unmitigated gall to say that out loud during a message. It wasn’t until I sat behind her that I realized that she wasn’t telling the preacher to shut up but her 3-year old son.

  • Comment by Austin — September 19, 2009 @ 12:59 pm

    It breaks my heart to see how much hatred and intolerance is on this page. Has the church really fallen so low as to hate and criticize one another so severely and unlovingly? Where is the power of the gospel? Where is the love?

    I am truly heartbroken by all of your comments.

  • Comment by Catherine — October 3, 2009 @ 6:10 pm

    I don’t get all the complaints about nursing moms – if you’re complaining about it, I hope your church provides some place for those women to feed their kids while still hearing the sermon. Babies at that age often won’t stay in the nursery. If people are being immodest, I can see asking an older woman to ask the nursing mom to use a better cover, or direct her to another place. But people freaking out just because the nursing is happening, even under a complete covering (like many of the hip moms have now) strikes me as quite uncharitable.

  • Comment by Kara — October 24, 2009 @ 12:53 am

    I too dont understand the problem with nursing mom. What if they are in a small church that doesnt have a nursing room? (like me) Often times nursing babies are too little to go to the nursery. What about moms (again, in my situation) that believe that God gave us our children for US to raise, not to farm out the an over worked, under staffed nursery. Are we then not allowed to worship because we believe we are following what God commanded?

  • Comment by Daniel J. Dick — November 5, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

    A person can become the wisest, most enlightened, most experienced, most in-the-know church epicurean and still go to hell as a bump on a log hypocrite who has never had any intention of humbling himself or becoming sincere or trusting Christ to do anything but what he imagines himself able to require Christ to do for his own comfort.

    It isn’t knowing the ropes. It isn’t knowing how to preach to get goose bumps on people’s neck and shoulders. It is not entertaining. It is not compromising with the devil and listening to the devil and being open minded to the devil for advice on how to run the church like a fine tuned successful business.

    It is emptiness. Brokenness. Poorness of spirit. Neediness. Faithfulness. Trusting Christ through the trials and tribulations. It is not carrying a martyrdom attitude that says “poor victimized me”. It is not boasting about how much one has sacrificed for God or how great accomplishments one has done for God. It is about repentance from all such sin and recognition that to refuse to forsake such sin is to die a liar and a hypocrite and go straight to hell whether it is from the pulpit or from the brothel.

    Christianity to be real begins with emptiness and total surrender. It is not tossing God our crap, our refuse, our table scraps only and keeping the best for ourselves. If there is one thing we continue to hold, then we have not surrendered our all and we should not be singing that song or else we’re lying. If we find ourselves in that place, then we need to let the Lord search our hearts because one thing we can be certain of is that we will not search our own hearts with any integrity at all if we’re still surrendered to sin.

    Christianity is about death. Revival presumes not only declension but a death that one is most likely unaware of. Presumably most dead people would not ordinarily know they are dead. Revival is not about entertainment. It is about brokenness. It is about forsaking sin. It is about repentance. It is about confession, admitting, taking responsibility, putting no blame on anyone else, making no claim of inability, offering no justification, holding on to no claim of innocence and coming to ask God to forgive us and when He forgives us, we ask Him to forgive us the very same way we forgive others as a pattern for His forgiveness for us. Jesus taught us to pray, “Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who have sinned against us.”

    If all we can do in church is feel proud about how well we know the ropes having been in the church for so many years, and if we strut around proud and shepherding the younger people into this same sort of compromising with sin, then what have we done differently than the devil?

    Church is not a place where we come to get fed. It is not a place where we sit back and hear the word of God only. It is a place where we go to seek preparation for the ministry, to get trained to become more competent in ministry.

    And church is not a place where we go to feel holy. It’s a place where we go to learn to become holy. It’s sacrifice, commitment, and not the kind of commitment and sacrifice that is there to boast about, but it is something that comes as a result of repentance where we know what God has done for us, where we know that whatever comes our way, even if it is the most hideous trials and tribulations known to man, somehow, we know that God’s love and wisdom and awareness of our situations is still keen and that God has a better purpose for allowing it to happen. Romans 8:28 doesn’t tell us all things will be roses and lollypops for those who love God and are called according to His purpose. It says all things will work to good for them.

    Jesus loved people. Still, He did not allow popular opinion shape His teaching. If people walked away, He did not chase after them. Some people twist scripture and try to do the same thing pounding the fist and saying “thus saith the Lord” where the Lord has not spoken that thing. It is not up to us to make others believe as we do. It is our place to study scripture, love scripture, love God, trust God, surrender to God, and believe that Christ’s death on the cross was sufficient to pay the price for our sins. If we regard iniquity in our hearts, our sacrifices will be worthless and our works will be as filthy rags — an attempt to buy God off, to insult Almighty God by throwing Him a bone, our refuse, our table scraps. And if we will not surrender all, if we keep part for ourselves, then all we have ever given Him is our refuse. And the insult to God is telling Him by this action that He is worthy of nothing more.

    We need to surrender to Jesus our all.

  • Comment by simplechristian — November 27, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

    One Sunday morning the Pastor of my former church was preaching a sermon entitled “Signs”. As an opener he called upon an old hippie to quote the lyrics from the old song “Signs, signs, everywhere signs”. The old hippie decided to have some fun with it, so he did it in his best Alexander Scourby KJV english. I don’t remember much of the rest of the sermon (but I did pull of a mean Al Scourby!)

  • Comment by Xtreme — January 22, 2010 @ 8:49 pm

    Overboardbriggs,

    I’ve encountered one of you nuts here in Canada before. Misquoting and twisting Scripture, shouting to the Christians “Come out of her, my people.” Maybe you should learn what the “her” is and take into consideration the context of the passage. Jesus nowhere said we should meet in “house churches”. Wherever and however genuine believers want to get together is up to them. If only two or three (not quoting that verse as support) want to get together to worship, praise and study God’s Word, then Amen! If they want to fellowship with a larger crows, then Amen! Trying to quote from Acts and claim we’re “supposed” to meet in house churches is as sad and pathetic as those who quote from Acts claiming God named His church and it is called “the Church of God” and any other church by any other name is not a church. That’s pure foolishness, sir! Quit trying to isolate verses and use them to formulate doctrines and legalistic laws that they were never meant for. Scripture twisting is not cool!

  • Comment by Xtreme — January 22, 2010 @ 9:12 pm

    Wpg_Canada,

    I suggest you look up the word “tolerant”. Tolerance does NOT mean that I must accept everyone else’s ideas and beliefs. You are sadly mistaken by your use of that erroneous concept of “tolerance”. Secondly, all other religions are false and damning of people to hell. Amongst ourselves, we are free to make fun of them because THEY MAKE NO SENSE! But when witnessing, we would never mock the person for their religion. I reason with people regularly, asking them questions to make them THINK for once in their life about the illogical falsehoods of their beliefs. Let’s take Satan’s favourite religion, Islam, as example. The UNholy Qu’ran states that Jesus’ words are true. Mark that! Muslims believe that Muhammed is the greatest prophet, and the Qu’ran states such. But if Jesus’ words are true, as the Qu’ran states (which they believe), Jesus Himself stated that “Of men born to women there is not a greater prophet than John the baptist”. Muslims believe Muhammed saw God. Jesus, Who’s words are true, said “No one has seen God or can see God for he would die” (paraphrase of several statements). Comments about the Bhagavad-Gita and its heretical fallacies are not only true, but perfectly fine given the appropriate setting. Look at converts from Islam who have come to know Jesus as Saviour. Even they will mock the Qu’ran, but only when talking with other Christians. When witnessing, they will point out the flaws to their former Muslim friends/family. And the fact there are some “Christians” who actually use these books and claim to get “spiritual knowledge” from them is bogus. Other religious writings and New Age trash do not do anything “spiritual”. The only appropriate reason to own something like the Qu’ran is to use it as a witnessing tool AGAINST those who believe in it. I have a Qu’ran and the Mormon’s Triple Combination and they are purely witnessing tools to use the words of their own literature against them in showing the illegitimate claims of their faith. It gets them thinking EVERY time (providing you do it right and do it with the right purpose – not merely for intellectual debate). If you use such books for daily devotions or things of the like, “drawing closer to god”, you might want to examine yourself as to whether you’re a genuine Christian or one of the MANY that think they are part of Christ and will be told “I never knew you!”
    Tolerance has always meant that if someone doesn’t want to see reason and apply logic, I accept THEM in spite of what they choose to believe. It has NEVER meant that I must accept anything and everything they believe as being equal to what I believe, which seems to be what you hint at by your comments. If such is the case, you might want to test yourself to see if you’re a Christian at all. Making a suggestion that we make room for and accept other’s beliefs is NOT biblical. Jesus said, “I am THE Way, THE Truth, and THE Life. NO ONE comes to the Father EXCEPT through ME.” There is ONLY one way to Christ, one way to salvation. Take it or leave it, but truth is truth.

  • Comment by Andy — February 28, 2010 @ 11:34 am

    Wow! I just discovered this site. I went to a church that showed clips from Braveheart and Mr. Bean. And head-covering was about all some of the young ladies had on. And it wasn’t a church that practiced head-covering!

    I prefer to sit up front because in many church if you sit in the back, the pastor sounds like the adults in the Charlie Brown cartoons.

    And I don’t want to hear “You wanna come back to my place and watch The Ten Commandments?”

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